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Posted 4 years 4 weeks ago #64227
First of all, thank you for this amazing resource. I am a beginner and am having difficulty with some of the basic concepts, and I do not understand why I am unable to completely grasp them. I am attempting to start a 3-4 year-old lemon tree which has been growing in the ground for the past year. I am hoping you can help me with the following questions:
1. Is it possible to cut too much off the top which would prevent it from growing a new leader, or will it grow as long as I keep the tree healthy? Or should I cut it down closer to the branches and attempt to make one of them the new leader?
2. It currently has two (relatively thick and long) lower branches which I have left untouched for the moment. They are also the only two branches on the tree other than the leader which is now a stump. Would pruning these be helpful to encourage growth at the top, or should I leave them as is to promote thickening of the trunk? Or does pruning these direct energy to these limbs rather than the top?
3. Is there anything I can do to encourage new growth at the site of the white arrows, or should I just cut them flush with the branch?
4. At what point should I trim the roots and replant into a more appropriate bonsai pot/bonsai "soil"? I replanted in a planter with citrus soil, pergolite, mulch, and humus/compost.
4. And at what point would it be advisable to defoliate the large leaves to develop smaller leaves?
Thank you so much,
Ryan M. Andrée
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Posted 4 years 4 weeks ago #64228
What you call branches is actually the New leaders. That is where the tree direct all tid energy right now. If you dont want a split trunk style they need to be cut at some point.

The wire is doing nothing, so they can be removed.

I am not sure how good lemon backbud. But the white arrows seems to be showing leftover stubs from earlier cut branches. I dont think that there will ever be any branches there ever. But it seems like there are a lot of dormant buds that will start to grow if the branches are cut back.
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Posted 4 years 4 weeks ago #64229
Hi, and welcome.

Basically what you are asking for is "how do I grow a bonsai tree from scratch". Which is a little bit much for a singular forum post.

A few pointers..

- What you can the top and main trunk seems (!) to have died back to the side branches. Which is actually good. Remove the stump, tilt the tree slightly and take one branch as the new trunk, and the other as first branch. Let the new top grow for a year and cut back to the first new branches you have next year. This way you slowly build a trunk, and taper in it.

Trees will budd on these chopped sections, if it feels a need to do so. Strength of the branches, time of the year and species all play a rol here. So no clear and always true answer here. I do not have citrus so cannot be more specific myself.

Pretty much all trees only grow buds at the sites where leaves used to be attached. So the cut off places might only grow new branches at the connection with the main branch, as no leave connections are present in the stub you left. Cut them flush, or leave them to dry out and then cut them, to be sure. Lesson: Always cut back to viable budding sites.

I am not sure where in the world you are. Here it is mid-winter. Do not expect a good growing response in winter. Come spring, the plant will wake up from slumber and start pushing again. 名媛直播 is a long game.
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Posted 4 years 4 weeks ago #64230
I suggest you remove the wire, it is doing nothing. As for defoliation to get smaller leaves, that is not the main purpose of defoliating and you have to grow the tree first. This is a very small plant that needs years of growing to get to a suitable stage to be styled. You said that it was in the ground, I would have left it there for another 4 or 5 years and allowed it to grow un checked.
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Posted 4 years 4 weeks ago #64247
One of the best things you can do is watch an experienced person do his/her thing with a tree, asking why this and that, and hearing the answer, then repeat with a different person and different tree.

Our club used to have work days when a dozen or more people brought in trees, worked on them, and let people watch. We would discuss over and over what to do to this tree, how to angle that branch, etc. You can get close to the same effect watching videos.
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Posted 4 years 4 weeks ago #64248
Thank you, and that is how I learn best. I have watched numerous videos, which are great, but they don't answer my specific questions. I would love to participate in something like that and will check in my area.
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Posted 4 years 4 weeks ago #64257
Can i ask what those dark/black spots on the trunk are? (not talking abou the died back part in the top)
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