Red maple and ficus ginseng, what to start with
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Posted 4 years 4 months ago #62744
You can wire the tree in summer. But dont wire just for the sake of it. Wire for a purpouse.
If it is allready to thick and hard for bending, obviously it is to late to wire. But I doubt it is. For your question about how, the best answer I can give is it is a feeling in the hands that you get by training. I guess most of us have snapped a trunk or branch learning.
I would go for a much bigger pot the first few years.
If it is allready to thick and hard for bending, obviously it is to late to wire. But I doubt it is. For your question about how, the best answer I can give is it is a feeling in the hands that you get by training. I guess most of us have snapped a trunk or branch learning.
I would go for a much bigger pot the first few years.
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Posted 4 years 4 months ago #62745
Concerning the ginseng ; it’s just commercially grown and named bonsai to sell. Just treat it as a houseplant , it has nothing to do with bonsai.
Another tip : this site has good courses to buy or go to a local bonsai club, YouTube ,.....
Another tip : this site has good courses to buy or go to a local bonsai club, YouTube ,.....
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Posted 4 years 4 months ago #62746
You don't just grab a tree and wrap wires around it, but instead spend some time looking at the tree and thinking about what the inner tree wants to be. Maybe there is a branch that is in the wrong place. Maybe it curves too much. Maybe it is too straight.
Some of the long time people on the list could sit down and figure a tree out in five minutes. I take longer - if I were working on that tree I would spend the rest of the year looking at it and thinking, then get to work in the spring, if I had come up with the idea. If not, next year.
Spend some time looking at galleries of bonsai trees. Compare those maples to yours. What ideas do they give you?
(a note - this is light exercise compared to the work to get a PhD in anything)
Some of the long time people on the list could sit down and figure a tree out in five minutes. I take longer - if I were working on that tree I would spend the rest of the year looking at it and thinking, then get to work in the spring, if I had come up with the idea. If not, next year.
Spend some time looking at galleries of bonsai trees. Compare those maples to yours. What ideas do they give you?
(a note - this is light exercise compared to the work to get a PhD in anything)
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Posted 4 years 4 months ago #62747
Tropfrog when you say in summer I'm guessing you mean next summer, according to lucR recommendations?
And when would be the best time to transfer it to a bigger pot?
From what I've read repotting would be best at the end of the winter, right before the temperature starts to rise.
And when would be the best time to transfer it to a bigger pot?
From what I've read repotting would be best at the end of the winter, right before the temperature starts to rise.
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Posted 4 years 4 months ago #62748
IvanMann thank you for the different perspective. Yes, I understand shaping a bonsai is a process that takes years and a lot of contemplation of the plant. I guess I was worried that if I let too much time go by, I'll lose my chance to change the shape of the trunk from it becoming too brittle.
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Posted 4 years 4 months ago #62759
Hi,
Both of your trees are grafted. In the case of the maple, because most laceleaf varieties are hard to grow from cuttings, and it being varieties, they do not grow true from seed. I have fuond this to be a variety very resistent to being layered off. The specimen you have there is not really great for bonsai to be honest.
THe ficus is grafted because the commercial growers want to grow a trunk in a period of months instead of decades. So they grow the fat roots in a field, chop the plant, graft the condensed growing ficus species on top and dig the whole lot into a pot.
Both of your trees are grafted. In the case of the maple, because most laceleaf varieties are hard to grow from cuttings, and it being varieties, they do not grow true from seed. I have fuond this to be a variety very resistent to being layered off. The specimen you have there is not really great for bonsai to be honest.
THe ficus is grafted because the commercial growers want to grow a trunk in a period of months instead of decades. So they grow the fat roots in a field, chop the plant, graft the condensed growing ficus species on top and dig the whole lot into a pot.
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