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Posted 4 years 4 months ago #62346
Hello, I want to attempt to plant and grow my own bonsai tree.
From what I've read so far I can get some seeds from acorns, pinecones and chestnuts once autumn rolls around.
Once I acquire those seeds I have a few questions on each steps:
0. Do I plant it just in my yard or put it in a pot?
1. Rocks/Gravel (I can buy from the store?)
2. 名媛直播 Soil (How do I get bonsai soil?)
3. Fertilizer (Can I make my own fertilizer from compose? or buy special one?)
...And any tips you think I'll need.
I plan to plant a few and see which ones are successful
Thanks in advance!!
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Posted 4 years 4 months ago #62347
Hi and glad you became interested in this hobby.

However, be warned from the very beginning of a few things.

First, if your interest is actually in bonsai, starting from seed is not a good plan. Even assuming everything goes well (but see below) it will mean you'll have to wait for minimum 5-10 years (depending on the species) before you do anything bonsai-ish. In the meanwhile, the chance of you getting bored of it is extremely high.

Second: unless you come from an already established horticultural background, your chances of success raising plants from seed are quite thin. Particularly if you're inexperienced and eager to help the plant speed up its growth, the chance of you actually killing it instead are very high. Been there, done that. The questions you're asking make me think you're currently at that very stage, but it could just be my impression.

For these reasons, my suggestions would actually be to obtain some grown-up material first, possibly in different stages of development:
* a few 2-5 years old plants to practice how to grow them
* a few more mature plants (5-20 yo) to practice bonsai and have the real fun. Even with these you'd need to just keep them alive for one or two years at least, before you attempt anything serious

You can do this while also trying to plant from seed, rest assured. Just don't bet everything on seeds...

With all that said, going to your actual questions:

0: mostly depends on how many you're planting and where. using pots allows you to optimize the environment to the germination process, so it can give you better success chances. if you have a thousand seeds and a field to use, on the other hand, you can just plant them and wait. You'd probably want to move them in the ground anyways after a couple of years, to allow them to grow freely and speed up the process and get to the bonsai stage faster ("faster" meaning >10 years instead of >20, to be clear).

1: not sure how it's related with bonsai, but rocks are rocks. If you have a good place to collect them, do. Or refer to a store if you don't.

2: a garden center would usually have some. Not necessarily high quality, but good enough to start with. You'll get to where you start selecting or mixing your soil further down the path, so don't worry too much about it for now. As long as the soil is draining and watering it doesn't turn it into a muck, it's good enough.

3: different fertilizers serve different purposes, so they need to be adjusted to the stage your plants are at. For the initial growing, anything would do, particularly in the field: you're not really doing bonsai yet, just growing plants. When the plants' roots are constrained in a small pot, the needs change, and compost wouldn't be a good choice there: over time it will turn the soil in the pot into a muck, and that's something one would want to avoid at all costs.

HTH and enjoy the journey
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Posted 4 years 4 months ago #62354
Thank you so much for replying.
The information helped me a lot. I haven't started anything 名媛直播 planting, I always wanted to but never knew where or how until I stumbled here. So I thought it's time to start and try!
I live in Canada so we have the 4 seasons and very long winter :(
I will take your suggestions :)

BofhSkull wrote: Hi and glad you became interested in this hobby.

However, be warned from the very beginning of a few things.

First, if your interest is actually in bonsai, starting from seed is not a good plan. Even assuming everything goes well (but see below) it will mean you'll have to wait for minimum 5-10 years (depending on the species) before you do anything bonsai-ish. In the meanwhile, the chance of you getting bored of it is extremely high.

Second: unless you come from an already established horticultural background, your chances of success raising plants from seed are quite thin. Particularly if you're inexperienced and eager to help the plant speed up its growth, the chance of you actually killing it instead are very high. Been there, done that. The questions you're asking make me think you're currently at that very stage, but it could just be my impression.

For these reasons, my suggestions would actually be to obtain some grown-up material first, possibly in different stages of development:
* a few 2-5 years old plants to practice how to grow them
* a few more mature plants (5-20 yo) to practice bonsai and have the real fun. Even with these you'd need to just keep them alive for one or two years at least, before you attempt anything serious

You can do this while also trying to plant from seed, rest assured. Just don't bet everything on seeds...

With all that said, going to your actual questions:

0: mostly depends on how many you're planting and where. using pots allows you to optimize the environment to the germination process, so it can give you better success chances. if you have a thousand seeds and a field to use, on the other hand, you can just plant them and wait. You'd probably want to move them in the ground anyways after a couple of years, to allow them to grow freely and speed up the process and get to the bonsai stage faster ("faster" meaning >10 years instead of >20, to be clear).

1: not sure how it's related with bonsai, but rocks are rocks. If you have a good place to collect them, do. Or refer to a store if you don't.

2: a garden center would usually have some. Not necessarily high quality, but good enough to start with. You'll get to where you start selecting or mixing your soil further down the path, so don't worry too much about it for now. As long as the soil is draining and watering it doesn't turn it into a muck, it's good enough.

3: different fertilizers serve different purposes, so they need to be adjusted to the stage your plants are at. For the initial growing, anything would do, particularly in the field: you're not really doing bonsai yet, just growing plants. When the plants' roots are constrained in a small pot, the needs change, and compost wouldn't be a good choice there: over time it will turn the soil in the pot into a muck, and that's something one would want to avoid at all costs.

HTH and enjoy the journey

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