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Posted 4 years 6 months ago #60216
Hi all, I’ve acquired an incredible Scots Pine. It is almost a twin trunk, however one trunk is super thick, leaving the other looking a bit surplus. I would like to split the two, no roots are present along the second trunk but strong roots are present just next to the main trunk join.

My question is can I split the join without killing the main trunk and at what time of year would I be best doing this (I’m in midlands UK).

This hopefully should leave me with a tree with a fat trunk and interesting scar/carving at the base and a separate literati second tree.

FYI I’ve been successfully keeping (experimenting with) bonsai for years but would definitely class myself as a novice. This is my first Scots Pine.

Cheers for your help
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Posted 4 years 6 months ago #60218
A picture would help enormously
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Posted 4 years 6 months ago #60222
I see what you mean now.
Difficult tree- but I do see a few options without splitting that trunk in two. Both trunks lack taper but that can be dealt with given some time.
What strikes me immediately is that they are both the same height, and going in the same direction, which is not so pleasing to the eye. You could shorten the thinnest one to the first branch, and work from there. The bigger trunk... needs work too imo. The top branch going down is way too thick compared to the lower branches..... it just doesn't feel right
Difficult to judge a tree from a picture of course, and this is just my opinion, others with more experience will see it different probably
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Posted 4 years 6 months ago #60224
I doubt you would get away with splitting and both or either surviving. There are other options, including making deadwood of one of the trunks. Or there are a couple of little branches low on the thinner trunk which if it was cut down could be grown out to make mother/daughter The thicker trunk also has no taper about which there is nothing much you can do apart from trying to disguise it with the branch on the right.
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Posted 4 years 6 months ago #60226
Cheers both, points all noted!

What time of year (UK) do you think it best to do the chopping of the thinner branch and other drastic pruning?
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Posted 4 years 6 months ago #60227
I would not be doing it now, maybe late summer to autumn. It is a nice piece of material, just needs work. I would suggest that you find a local club.and hopefully get some help that way, not at the moment of course, but no hurry, you need to do it right. I can't tell how much the candles have grown, I would fertilise and wait. I use Biogold and seaweed extract on all of mine, and you could also use fish emulsion.
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Posted 4 years 6 months ago #60229
m5eaygeoff is absolutely right, do not do anything just because we said something. It is a really nice piece of material and you should really consult people with knowledge that can see the tree in real life!! There is no rush at all, get multiple advices and decide afterwards, or dont decide at all untill you know for sure. If 10 people look at this material,you will become 12 "solutions"....
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Posted 5 months 2 weeks ago #83832
Out of interest how old is this tree? I've recently started growing Scots pines and wonder how many years it takes to? get to this kind of size.

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lucR wrote: m5eaygeoff is absolutely right, do not do anything just because we said something. It is a really nice piece of material and you should really consult people with knowledge that can see the tree in real life!! There is no rush at all, get multiple advices and decide afterwards, or dont decide at all untill you know for sure. If 10 people look at this material,you will become 12 "solutions"....

I had a tree once that I couldn't decide what to do with.?

I took it to a meeting, asked three people, and got five answers.

The last answer added that after all it was my tree. I chose a sixth answer, and at the next meeting all three said it was a good choice.

The tree was well over a meter high, and the choices were chop it real short, chop it much higher, pick branches to save, etc. The sixth choice, which none of them thought of, was air layering.?

It's your tree. We can give great advice on how to keep it alive. How to make your eyes happy with it is out of our range.
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