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Better Learning 名媛直播? Elm vs Fukien?

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Posted 4 years 8 months ago #59255
Fukien tree is one of the hardest plants to keep healthy outside the tropics.
Elms.. I see too many elms here that are almost dead to suggest it is a good idea to be honest.

Ficus works. But keep in mind.. Indoors you cannot apply the same techniques as you would when growing outdoors in real sunlight and proper air.
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Posted 4 years 8 months ago #59262

BofhSkull wrote:

Nataris wrote: I by no means was suggesting you were wrong. Just seems like places promote Fukien as beginner bonsai.

Wh8ch is funny because I did some research after you said that and from bonsai people they seem to say the same while bonsai sellers are trying to push it as an easy tree

Funny how that works.

Thanks for the tips. I'll be going for the Elm and Ficus. I can't do outdoor because I live in an apartment complex and simply wouldn't trust the trees outside.

Thank you all for the tips.


I think it has to do with the fact that most non-specialized sellers present bonsai as an indoor thing, and fukien is amongst the few that can actually survive indoor.
In general avoid any seller presenting bonsai as something you can/should do indoor (and I mean in your house: a greenhouse is a different thing): if they tell you that they're either scamming you or have no clue what they're talking about.


Well, what is confusing to me then is that 2 good friends of mine have been growing bonsai indoors for over 10 yrs with success.

Between the 2 of them I think they are growing ficus, elm, olive, umbrella, Brazilian rain and another I forget. Seems like indoor is viable just depends on the species?
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Posted 4 years 8 months ago #59264
The two friends of you are eighther lying or have very cold inside. At least when it comes to the Elm and the olive.
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Replied by BofhSkull on topic Better Learning 名媛直播? Elm vs Fukien?

Posted 4 years 8 months ago #59270

Nataris wrote: Well, what is confusing to me then is that 2 good friends of mine have been growing bonsai indoors for over 10 yrs with success.

Between the 2 of them I think they are growing ficus, elm, olive, umbrella, Brazilian rain and another I forget. Seems like indoor is viable just depends on the species?


No offence, but I'll believe it when I see it. ;-)

Growing a plant indoor is one thing.
Ficus, elm: can do. Olive? (Ah, yes, I've one of those too) less so, but perhaps still doable.
No experience with the others.

But there's a huge difference between "growing plants" and "doing bonsai".
To apply bonsai techniques you need plants in excellent health, and even when plants can be kept indoor, they never really thrive.
You try to bonsai them, you kill 'em.

I'm sure somebody somewhere can prove me wrong, but all I know says he/she/they must be good as hell.
Definitely not something I'd suggest to the average practitioner.
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Posted 4 years 8 months ago #59271

Nataris wrote: Well, what is confusing to me then is that 2 good friends of mine have been growing bonsai indoors for over 10 yrs with success.

Between the 2 of them I think they are growing ficus, elm, olive, umbrella, Brazilian rain and another I forget. Seems like indoor is viable just depends on the species?


Yeah, I think what you will find is that people who are good with plants and know what plants need can keep several species alive also inside. Ficus, Umbrella and Raintree are plants that are from the (sub) tropics and should be kept indoors over winter and under right care can life indoors. Elm is tolerant to a wide range of climates (tough as nails). Olive thrives under dry air conditions. So I am not surprised.

Thing is.. Just looking at statistics.. Most people showing up her have no clue about growing plants. And will kill their plants as they do not provide the right conditions. It is just so much harder to do. And as said before: For bonsai techniques to work well, trees need not just live, but thrive; There might be a different understanding of "bonsai" mixed in.
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