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Tropfrog wrote:

m5eaygeoff wrote: Junipers die inside full stop.

I tend to dissagree. All my trees are inside in winter. Trees die in living room temperature.

... I tend to disagree with your disagreement: Most ( if not all) people ( and certainly those that know nothing about bonsai) mean their living room when they say inside...

Tropfrog wrote: I tend to dissagree. All my trees are inside in winter. Trees die in living room temperature.

If they're not "in living room temperature", they're not really "indoor". Just sheltered.
It's different.

BofhSkull wrote:

Tropfrog wrote: I tend to dissagree. All my trees are inside in winter. Trees die in living room temperature.

If they're not "in living room temperature", they're not really "indoor". Just sheltered.
It's different.

THis is what you get when someone who really has no clue starts responding.
It is NOT the temperature. Junipers are widely present in the tropics. It is the whole shebang from dry air, low light, poor air movement and lack of variation.

Lb is right as Always. Living room conditions also comes with dry air, low light, poor air movement and lack of variation.

leatherback wrote: If they're not "in living room temperature", they're not really "indoor". Just sheltered.
It's different.

THis is what you get when someone who really has no clue starts responding.
It is NOT the temperature. Junipers are widely present in the tropics. It is the whole shebang from dry air, low light, poor air movement and lack of variation.[/quote]

If you're referring to my reply, that's not what I meant.
If what one does is keep a plant outdoor for 9 months and shelter it during winter in a cold frame or a garage, it's one thing.
That's not "indoor", to me. And one -depending on the plant and the local climate- may have perfectly valid reasons to do so, even with a juniper.

If for 3 months you bring a juniper in your living room, you most likely kill it.
That is what I mean.

Bothskull: you know he didnt meen you.

Do you consider frost Free basement of my house to be inside or just sheltered?

Tropfrog wrote: Do you consider frost Free basement of my house to be inside or just sheltered?

Sheltered.

Ok, lack of consensus in deffinitions then.

My house have doors and the tree is behind the doors. According to my definition indoors. The same goes with my greenhouse.

BofhSkull wrote: If you're referring to my reply, that's not what I meant.

Absolutely not. Sorry for the confusion.

Tropfrog wrote: Ok, lack of consensus in deffinitions then.

My house have doors and the tree is behind the doors. According to my definition indoors. The same goes with my greenhouse.

Sure. As always