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Posted 4 years 9 months ago #57904
Hello everyone,

Happy to be here. First time bonsai gardener here, I received a Juniper Spruce 名媛直播 Tree from a work associate and I just love it. The problem is that I am the opposite of a green thumb and I think I have completely killed my tree. I've been keeping it in my office. I watered it aggressively in the beginning and have since learned to not over water it. It's about 80% yellow but with green new growth coming in. I re-potted it about 2 weeks ago and it isn't showing much improvement. I really want to save this tree and will do anything I need to do. I live in Michigan and I think either the overwatering or the cold weather has just about killed it. I'm really at square one here. I'll read a blog and it'll make me think I am overwatering and then I will read another blog and it makes me think I am underwatering it. I am also anxious that when I repotted the plant I did not trim the roots, which I later learned I should've done.

Should I repot again with new high quality soil and trim the roots back?

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Posted 4 years 9 months ago #57906
Hmm. You keep it in your office and are concerned about it beeing too cold? I can assure you no matter if it is a Juniper or spruce you have, it needs a lot colder than what is pleasant to do Office work right now. At least if you are in the northern hemisphere.

Dont trim roots on unhealty trees and put it outside where it belongs.

For further advises, Please post a picture of the tree.
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Posted 4 years 9 months ago #57907
first welcome to the forum. without a photo of the tree no one can give much input about the tree itself. but from what you have described the very first issue here is you been keeping the tree indoors which most likely brings alot of your issues. bonsai trees belong outside (protecting it from frost when necessary). do not repot this tree again you may have already done more damage by doing so the first time. repoting a unhealthy tree can make things worse.
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Posted 4 years 9 months ago #57909

Tropfrog wrote: Hmm. You keep it in your office and are concerned about it beeing too cold? I can assure you no matter if it is a Juniper or spruce you have, it needs a lot colder than what is pleasant to do Office work right now. At least if you are in the northern hemisphere.

Dont trim roots on unhealty trees and put it outside where it belongs.

For further advises, Please post a picture of the tree.


I've been keeping it in the window sill, which can get down to 20 degrees overnight during the winter. I've read several posts/blogs that state to bring the tree in during the winter. I figured in the window it should be getting the sun and temp fluctuations it needs.
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crent89 wrote: first welcome to the forum. without a photo of the tree no one can give much input about the tree itself. but from what you have described the very first issue here is you been keeping the tree indoors which most likely brings alot of your issues. bonsai trees belong outside (protecting it from frost when necessary). do not repot this tree again you may have already done more damage by doing so the first time. repoting a unhealthy tree can make things worse.


Thank you... I am happy to be here. I mentioned above that I keep it on the window sill in my office but I will move it outside. I'll post a photo tonight when I get home.
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Posted 4 years 9 months ago #57911
Junipers are hardy, they will not survive inside, If you cannot put it outside then it will die.
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Posted 4 years 9 months ago #57912

jedwardcole wrote:

Tropfrog wrote: Hmm. You keep it in your office and are concerned about it beeing too cold? I can assure you no matter if it is a Juniper or spruce you have, it needs a lot colder than what is pleasant to do Office work right now. At least if you are in the northern hemisphere.

Dont trim roots on unhealty trees and put it outside where it belongs.

For further advises, Please post a picture of the tree.


I've been keeping it in the window sill, which can get down to 20 degrees overnight during the winter. I've read several posts/blogs that state to bring the tree in during the winter. I figured in the window it should be getting the sun and temp fluctuations it needs.


Is any of the posts stating to take junipers or spruces inside from this or other reputable forum?

20 degrees is much to warm in winter and spring. At least if it is Celsius.
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Posted 4 years 9 months ago #57913

Tropfrog wrote:

jedwardcole wrote:

Tropfrog wrote: Hmm. You keep it in your office and are concerned about it beeing too cold? I can assure you no matter if it is a Juniper or spruce you have, it needs a lot colder than what is pleasant to do Office work right now. At least if you are in the northern hemisphere.

Dont trim roots on unhealty trees and put it outside where it belongs.

For further advises, Please post a picture of the tree.


I've been keeping it in the window sill, which can get down to 20 degrees overnight during the winter. I've read several posts/blogs that state to bring the tree in during the winter. I figured in the window it should be getting the sun and temp fluctuations it needs.


Is any of the posts stating to take junipers or spruces inside from this or other reputable forum?

20 degrees is much to warm in winter and spring. At least if it is Celsius.


I am referring to Fahrenheit, I should've been more clear. As a beginner, I can't comment on the validity of the forums, only that I have seen that comment on multiple forums.
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Posted 4 years 9 months ago #57914

jedwardcole wrote: I've been keeping it in the window sill, which can get down to 20 degrees overnight during the winter. I've read several posts/blogs that state to bring the tree in during the winter. I figured in the window it should be getting the sun and temp fluctuations it needs.


Sites/blogs that state that junipers need to be brought indoors in winter are sites that have no idea what they are talking about (unless when they are referring to an unheated space, unlike an office)

-7 C. is not cold for a juniper,.Don't compare them with people/pets. They evolved this way and cold is normal for them. How do you think they survive in nature?

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If 80 of your tree is yellow, that means probably most of it is dead. Seems unlikely it can be saved due to the damage it has already gotten due to overwatering, repotting and keeping it in the wrong climate.

Can't be sure without a picture though.
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Posted 4 years 9 months ago #57915

Auk wrote:

jedwardcole wrote: I've been keeping it in the window sill, which can get down to 20 degrees overnight during the winter. I've read several posts/blogs that state to bring the tree in during the winter. I figured in the window it should be getting the sun and temp fluctuations it needs.


20 degrees at night? Why so warm? Do people work there overnight? 20/21 degrees would be a nice day temperature.

Sites/blogs that state that junipers need to be brought indoors in winter are sites that have no idea what they are talking about (unless when they are referring to an unheated space, unlike an office)

If 80 of your tree is yellow, that means probably most of it is dead. Seems unlikely it can be saved due to the damage it has already gotten due to overwatering, repotting and keeping it in the wrong climate.

Can't be sure without a picture though.


20 degrees Fahrenheit, I'm in the US.
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