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Posted 4 years 9 months ago #57762
Hi all,
I've always had an interest in bonsai, but haven't gotten around to do it. Anyways, I saw this ad, and thought it was too good to be true, and as it turned out, it was. What I got was nowhere like the tree shown in the ad. A very small tree in a 3" pot. See the 2 pictures.

Anyways, I know that timewise, I'm quite a ways from doing any training. My questions to you guys are: [1] What pot size should I plant these in? [2] Since I'm just growing them out, any typical potting soil will work, right? [3] How long will it be before I can start pruning and training?
I'm in Zone 9, central California.

Thank you very much,
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Posted 4 years 9 months ago #57763
That add has at least four lies:

- It's not a bonsai
- There is no such thing as an indoor juniper
- It WILL grow more than 18" tall. 名媛直播 are not trees that grow all by themselves into that size and shape.
- It's not a miniature version of an outdoor shrub. It is a young cutting of an outdoor shrub.

Also, I don't think they are deer resistant. Not sure, I've never seen a deer in my garden.

7 USD maq not seem much, but it's just a cutting and still overoprized.

I'd plant this in the ground and let it grow for a few years.

Is this where you bought it?


I suggest you post your experience here:

or on another site, like Google reviews.

Next time, review such sites. Directgardening is getting very bad reviews.
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Posted 4 years 9 months ago #57767
What a scam!
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Posted 4 years 9 months ago #57771
Yeah, that's where I bought them from. I think I'll just plant these in the ground and let them develop normally, and not do anything "bonsai" with them. I'll look for another starter plant. Can you guys recommend where to buy one? I like and have full size figs and Delonix regia, so I might go that way if I can find any. Otherwise any other kind of tree will do.
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Posted 4 years 9 months ago #57773

Dungeness wrote: Can you guys recommend where to buy one? I like and have full size figs and Delonix regia, so I might go that way if I can find any. Otherwise any other kind of tree will do.


If you can grow Delonix Regia... that could be an option.

I would certainly choose an outdoor species. Preferably one that grows locally and that's suitable for bonsai.
Can't tell you where to buy one. I don't order trees on line as I can't see what I'll get. Are there any clubs/bonsai societies in your area? That would be a good starting point. They can tell you what will do well in your area and where to get it.
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Posted 4 years 9 months ago #57799

Auk wrote: Can't tell you where to buy one. I don't order trees on line as I can't see what I'll get. Are there any clubs/bonsai societies in your area? That would be a good starting point. They can tell you what will do well in your area and where to get it.


Certainly plenty of bonsai clubs throughout California, shouldn’t be too hard to find one not too far from you. Get in touch with them and see when they meet and when you can join for some beginner’s help. Most likely they’ll have a way to keep in touch online, and that way you can probably obtain to get some guidance from people who have been doing this for several years in your same location and environment. They can suggest you what is easy to start with in your climate: go with that.

Knowing your climate a bit, I’d start with a juniper as they can be very forgiving, and that’s a particularly good thing for beginners; but that’s just me: I visit the area often but have never lived nor have been growing plants locally, so locals’ suggestion may differ.
Any garden center selling plants is a good place to start getting some cheap material: go and get anything that is not too big for you and has some nice movement in the lower part of the trunk.
Doesn’t have to look like a bonsai (if it does, it’s probably way too expensive for you). Just get it and start understanding it. First couple of years all you’re going to do will be watering, fertilizing and some minor wiring just to understand how the process works, so getting a high quality tree is at this stage extremely premature.

But whatever plant you decide to go for, go for something that does well outdoor.
Indoor bonsai seems nice as an idea, but it rapidly turns into complete frustration.
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Posted 4 years 9 months ago #57806
Instead of the big box garden place, try a Mom and Pop place, walk around, and look for the stunted tree with maybe a top broken off. The big box places have a lot of tall trees with skinny trunks which are a low probability gamble at best. Mom and Pop will give it to you for cheap. They will be friendly because that is how they stay in business.
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Posted 4 years 9 months ago #57852
I'll look for bonsai clubs in CA as suggested.
What about the 3 junipers that I bought? Is it a good idea to just pot them up in a 1-gallon and let them grow for a couple years and use them as bonsai starters?
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Posted 4 years 9 months ago #57855

Dungeness wrote: I'll look for bonsai clubs in CA as suggested.
What about the 3 junipers that I bought? Is it a good idea to just pot them up in a 1-gallon and let them grow for a couple years and use them as bonsai starters?


By all means, go ahead.
About that, you may be interested in this for this very first steps...


...and this for later ones...


Remember, when the time comes, to post updates here ;-)
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