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Carmona Microphylla - On the verge of death

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Posted 4 years 11 months ago #55867
Hello,

As the title suggests, I believe my carmona microphylla is on the verge of death.

I bought the tree a little over a year ago and it has been healthy majority of the time. In the beginning I had white aphids which soon went once treated, and then 2 months ago it suffered from white aphids but this time it took around 3 weeks to get rid of the infestation. It seemed to be recovering after this as new leaves were growing.

Now though all the leaves are drooping and have gone slightly brown. I check the moisture of the soil each day to make sure it has enough water.
Yesterday I re-pot the tree in new soil as the old soil wasn't draining well. During this I accidentally hit (only a little more than a touch) one of the branches which then broke. The branch which came off felt very dry and i was easily able to snap the rest.

This makes me think the plant may be passed the point in saving however I'm still learning so could do with some help from this community!

Much appreciated
Nick
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Posted 4 years 11 months ago #55869
It looks dead. the leaves should not be dropping or drooping. The rocks are not helping. and it looks like the soil is wet.
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Posted 4 years 11 months ago #55872

treesensei wrote: Yesterday I re-pot the tree in new soil as the old soil wasn't draining well.


Hello, Nick.
You should never ever repot a sick/weak tree, specially in winter.
It looks very bad, maybe dead already.
The big stone on the soil is not good for drainage also, it's too big.
Sorry for the bad news.
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Posted 4 years 11 months ago #55876
Hey
I am also a beginner, I have a Chinese Privet bonsai and I had the exact same problem a month ago. The problem is the soil that was already in the pot when I bought my bonsai from the shop. This soil didn't allow a good drainage and and was suffocating the roots. I cleaned the roots, taking away all the old trashy soil and changed the soil to a (mostly) non-organic and organic soil mix, I cut some branches, repotted to a bigger pot and now it is recovering, new leaves and branches are sprouting. I live in Portugal, Southern Europe, maybe the weather helped a bit. Search more online but don't give up. The change to a non-organic soil truly saved my bonsai but maybe more people with experience will help
Sorry for eventual language mistakes
All the best and good luck :)
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Posted 4 years 11 months ago #55891

TheTraveller0203 wrote: Hey
I am also a beginner, I have a Chinese Privet bonsai and I had the exact same problem a month ago. The problem is the soil that was already in the pot when I bought my bonsai from the shop. This soil didn't allow a good drainage and and was suffocating the roots. I cleaned the roots, taking away all the old trashy soil and changed the soil to a (mostly) non-organic and organic soil mix, I cut some branches, repotted to a bigger pot and now it is recovering, new leaves and branches are sprouting. I live in Portugal, Southern Europe, maybe the weather helped a bit. Search more online but don't give up. The change to a non-organic soil truly saved my bonsai but maybe more people with experience will help
Sorry for eventual language mistakes
All the best and good luck :)


Happy to see you interacting on the forum. :cheer:
But.. I would not readily give this advice out. :unsure:

A privet is a VERY different species than a carmona. Privets are impossible to kill, pretty much. So what you did was more luck than good practice, I am afraid.. B)
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Posted 4 years 11 months ago #55962
Hello Clicio,

Thank you for your response and help. I've read that it shouldn't be done but I feared if left there was no chance of recovery. I've been given advise to cut a small slit into the trunk to see if it is still green, if so then it should still be alive. I've not had time to do this yet.

I bought the tree with the pot from a garden center, to my surprise the rock is actually cemented into the pot and cannot be removed.

If there is a happy ending to this, I will post a reply.
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Posted 4 years 11 months ago #55963

treesensei wrote: I've been given advise to cut a small slit into the trunk to see if it is still green.


Well, I don't like this method because if the tree is weak and struggling it will make it weaker.
It's somehow like splitting open an arm of a dying man to see if the blood still flows.
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Posted 4 years 11 months ago #55969

Clicio wrote:

treesensei wrote: I've been given advise to cut a small slit into the trunk to see if it is still green.


Well, I don't like this method because if the tree is weak and struggling it will make it weaker.
It's somehow like splitting open an arm of a dying man to see if the blood still flows.


I would do this to make sure it is dead, after I am pretty sure it is dead. I have cut a branch back a cm or so, then another, then another, looking for green wood. Then it would be best to seal it up.
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Posted 4 years 11 months ago #55976

Ivan Mann wrote:

Clicio wrote:

treesensei wrote: I've been given advise to cut a small slit into the trunk to see if it is still green.


Well, I don't like this method because if the tree is weak and struggling it will make it weaker.
It's somehow like splitting open an arm of a dying man to see if the blood still flows.


I would do this to make sure it is dead, after I am pretty sure it is dead. I have cut a branch back a cm or so, then another, then another, looking for green wood. Then it would be best to seal it up.


I think my view on this is known. If not..
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