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Hi everyone,

I have recently started to get interested in bonsai tree growing. I have tried to do a lot of research but it is very limited answers to my quesitons. I hope maybe someone could help me here to understand the beginnings of bonsai tree growing. I understand it is a lot easier to start growing bonsai from already grown tree for beginner but I choose to do this from seed. I understand its difficult and challeging but thats what I want and thats what keeps me interested.

I would like to grow my bonsai indoor most of the time in a year. However as I've read most of the tree's best grow outdoor. But some(tropical and sub-tropical) do well indoor as long as certain care is provided. However I just don't like the looks of the tropical tree's and much more prefer the looks of temperate tree's.
I have looked at : Chinese elm, Cherry blossom, mountain dwarf pine and japanese cedar but cant find many answers wheter they would survive indoor growing ?
Do they have any chances to be succesfully surviving indoor (assuming I provide certain care for it)? And if so would I need to bring it outside at certain times ?

I have already bought and soaked all of my seeds in water and already put them in the fridge for cold stratification process (as per all instructions). It's almost 30 days for them in the fridge. (japanese cedar and cherry blossom)
I know it's winter season now but is it fine to sow them indoor at this time of the year once I finish with cold stratification? Or should I keep them in the fridge until spring and sow it then ? Can i sow it and leave it indoor ? Should i put a fan above it when sowed ? I have also got 2 led grow lights which is 10w each.. How far should i put it above it and for how long a day ? as I live in Scotland and weather is very dark all day round..



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Mopetka wrote: ...should I keep them in the fridge until spring and sow it then ?

If they were mine, I would keep them in the fridge till Spring. One way of doing it is sowing them right now, outdoors, so they will sprout naturally when the warm weather gets to them in the Spring.

Mopetka wrote: ...Can i sow it and leave it indoor ?

I wouldn't do that in the winter.

Thanks for some answers and advice. I will wait for spring..
How about growing mentioned species indoor ? Would that work or there is no chance at all ? Because some websites say its fine to grow indoor some say no.. Some say could do with 50/50 indoor outdoor.. Im very confused

Mopetka wrote: Thanks for some answers and advice. I will wait for spring..
How about growing mentioned species indoor ? Would that work or there is no chance at all ? Because some websites say its fine to grow indoor some say no.. Some say could do with 50/50 indoor outdoor.. Im very confused

If the seeds needs cold stratification, you have a tree that needs cold dormancy in winter. If you can provide the cold dormancy inside your house that can work. Inside a Warm and dry Home, it Will Most likelky dont work.

Mopetka wrote: How about growing mentioned species indoor ?

Well, slippery subject that pops up on zillions of posts.
The truth is *most* good species for bonsai require 100% outside placement; if the temperatures in the winter are below minus 20?C, a cold frame or unheated garage is handy. This is true with pines, junipers, and northern hemisphere deciduous species.
*Most* tropicals don't get well if temperatures are below 0?C, so they should be indoors for the winter. If they keep growing (and some do), then high humidity, artificial light and heating are required. If they go dormant, then light is not so important, but lack of humidity can be a problem.
When you read "50/50 indoors/outdoors" probably the meaning is "inside during the colder months, outside the rest of the year".
As an example, I live in a tropical country where all tropicals can be grown inside or outside.
Inside, they live (some struggle). Outside, they thrive.
So I guess the correct answer for the Northern hemisphere is "Local trees should be outside at all times" and "Tropicals should be kept indoors during the coldest winters".

Mopetka wrote: Chinese elm, Cherry blossom, mountain dwarf pine and japanese cedar

So for these species the answer is: They will be possibly very unhappy indoors, and very happy outdoors, once they are in good health and strong enough.

Wow finally i got my answers. Thank you so much for sharing your experience and knowledge. This will help a lot in starting my learning !

I'll expand on Clicio`s answer.

There are a lot of variables in your location and it is real hard for people here to give you very exact answers. Find a group of people locally who do bonsai. They know what trees have survived there. They may have trees to share. They may have parties.