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Posted 5 years 8 months ago #48905
So I've been able to successfully start growing some black pine and maple from seeds and I'm quite happy with the progress so far as this is my second attempt. First attempt i did the indoor stratification process however it was unsuccessful. I've read a few books about the different species and how to look after them so i have a general idea about bonsai's. My question is do these look alright and when would it be best to repot them?

I've been keeping these in a propogator to protect them from the wind with the vents open, they've been placed to get the full morning sun and are shaded in the afternoon. I've been using just a general pre bonsai mix you can get online and only water them when needed.

Any tips to use now and for the future would be appreciated.
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Posted 5 years 8 months ago #48909
名媛直播 are not grown from seed trees are which may if treated correctly may be styled into becoming bonsai. trees from seed take a long time I would get them outside and hardened off as quickly as possible then grown on and preferably planted in the ground.
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Posted 5 years 8 months ago #48910
I'm not entirely sure where you're coming from, from what i gathered bonsai's are miniature trees that are grown in a pot whether its grown from a seed or not. I'm aware that its going to take a while but I'm wanting to grow from a seed because of it being more fun and worth while rather then buying one already grown.

What i'm after is do i repot them now or is the seed trays they're in suffice enough for a year and then repot them when they're stronger?
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Posted 5 years 8 months ago #48942

Russy wrote: I'm not entirely sure where you're coming from, from what i gathered bonsai's are miniature trees that are grown in a pot whether its grown from a seed or not. I'm aware that its going to take a while but I'm wanting to grow from a seed because of it being more fun and worth while rather then buying one already grown.

What i'm after is do i repot them now or is the seed trays they're in suffice enough for a year and then repot them when they're stronger?


You are right, bonsai are growing in a pot. But what you have is not a bonsai. It's a seedling, so gather a bit more on the forum.
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Posted 5 years 8 months ago #48951
Thanks for that but I know these are seedlings as stated in the title. What i'm after though is do i need to repot these now or are the seed trays suffice enough to leave them there for a year before repotting them again? I know the sort of size pots they need to be in as a bonsai but i can't seem to find much information about them as seedlings.
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Posted 5 years 8 months ago #48953
You have stumbled unwittingly upon a long time theme here. When does a plane growing in a pot qualify as a bonsai? This is particularly confusing here since the bonsaiempire web site says a bonsai is a tree growing in a pot.

I cut most of a hackberry tree off and put it in a large tub. It looks just like that and does not resemble any picture in a bonsai magazine or a bonsai show. Maybe in twenty years the suckers growing out of the cut end will look like branches and it would qualify for a show. I don't call it a bonsai, a prebonsai or anything else, so I don't worry about terms.

Your seedlings won't qualify for a bonsai show for a log time, but don't worry about names for now. Let them grow, develop the roots, etc., learn how to develop the seedlings, and have fun doing it.
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Posted 5 years 8 months ago #48954

Ivan Mann wrote: Let them grow, develop the roots, etc., learn how to develop the seedlings, and have fun doing it.


Yes, I really have fun sowing and growing things from seed. Japanese call it mish?.
But...
I have some 10 or 15 grown up bonsai to have fun also when I feel.like styling the trees.
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Posted 5 years 8 months ago #48959
When growing from seed, and going the slow route (GRowing them in pots all their lives) mean that whatever you grow now, will be the main trunk later. (The fast route puts the seedling in the ground and basically allows the grow a big fat base, after which it is chopped a few cm off the ground, and left to shoot again, with repeated cuts to build a tunkP).

So going the slow route, your aim should be to get as many buds on the main trunk as possible. I would therefor keep it growing slowy. Repot in a somewhat larger pot, but not much. Uppot every year, giving a slow but steady increase in size. Focus at each repot on creating a good nebari (rootspread). As rootwork is best done when the plant is dormant, your window for rootwork for this year is gone. But you can put the plant in pots one size up, which will stimulate growth. I am planning on planting out my seedlings today in a large seedling tray, putting them in idvidual pots only in year 2..
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Posted 5 years 8 months ago #48972

leatherback wrote: So going the slow route, your aim should be to get as many buds on the main trunk as possible. I would therefor keep it growing slowy. Repot in a somewhat larger pot, but not much. Uppot every year, giving a slow but steady increase in size. Focus at each repot on creating a good nebari (rootspread). As rootwork is best done when the plant is dormant, your window for rootwork for this year is gone. But you can put the plant in pots one size up, which will stimulate growth. I am planning on planting out my seedlings today in a large seedling tray, putting them in idvidual pots only in year 2..


Thanks for the info. Now i think more about it i probably have affected my seedlings growth by having them in the individual seed trays, preventing the roots from growing out. When i repot these next time they go dormant would it be worth putting them in a large seed tray instead to give them the room to grow outwards or should i stay with what i'm doing and like you say plant them in a slightly bigger pot?

These seedlings aren't even a year old as i planted them last September and they didnt start sprouting until January.
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Posted 5 years 8 months ago #48974
Several people locally grow from seeds and put them in the ground, put them over a large flat stone covered with not much soil, to get roots spread out but no tap root.
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