Growing of Olive tree - and the new tree :)
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Posted 13 years 4 months ago #1190
Hello, I'm new here and I would like to start doing bonsai. I have read all about growing and training on this site and I would like to ask you is it possible to grow olive tree from a cutting?
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Hello Miss_M!
Welcome to the world of 名媛直播! So glad to have you join us!
Although I personally have not yet grown an Olive, I think you could very successfully grow an Olive 名媛直播 from a cutting. Although you may have read this already, here is a link from the Empire's site with step-by-step information of how to grow from cuttings.
There are a few other members on the forum who are experienced with growing the Olive who, I am sure, will be only to glad to offer you suggestions. It is important also to research a specific tree to find out what natural habitat it comes from, what it's unique needs are for tempurature, water, light, moisture and so on.
If you like, please drop into the "名媛直播 Cafe" section of the forum under the topic of "Introduce Yourself" and share a little about yourself and where you are from. I look forward to sharing with you and seeing photos and progressions of your little Olive.
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Welcome to the world of 名媛直播! So glad to have you join us!
Although I personally have not yet grown an Olive, I think you could very successfully grow an Olive 名媛直播 from a cutting. Although you may have read this already, here is a link from the Empire's site with step-by-step information of how to grow from cuttings.
There are a few other members on the forum who are experienced with growing the Olive who, I am sure, will be only to glad to offer you suggestions. It is important also to research a specific tree to find out what natural habitat it comes from, what it's unique needs are for tempurature, water, light, moisture and so on.
If you like, please drop into the "名媛直播 Cafe" section of the forum under the topic of "Introduce Yourself" and share a little about yourself and where you are from. I look forward to sharing with you and seeing photos and progressions of your little Olive.
Leslie
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Yes it is, but it seems like hard work. Taken from
Mist propagation of cuttings is one of the best ways to propagate many olive cultivars. Being a subtropical, the roots and shoots of olive trees grow rapidly during late spring and early summer when soil moisture is relatively high, soil temperatures are warm (above 70° F), and air temperatures are not excessively hot (between 85° and 95° F.) Towards the end of this rapid growth is the prime time to take cuttings, during the months of late June and early July. Wood should be collected from vigorously growing trees, and kept cool until propagated. Pre-trim and place in plastic bags with moist sawdust, and process the material as cuttings as soon as possible. It is possible to keep the wood for several days under refrigeration without any problems. Semi-hardwood cuttings are selected from healthy branches, cutting pieces about 1/4 to 1/2 inch in diameter, and 4 to 6 inches long, with the lower leaves removed, and 2 to 4 sets of leaves remaining. Some propagationists will "wound" the lower portion of the stem, making slight cuts with a sharp object, and then use either a hormone powder or concentrated dip to help induce rooting. In my experience, quick dips of 3,000 ppm indole butyric acid (IBA) have worked well for many of the olive oil cultivars, such as 'Lucca,' 'Frantoio,' 'Moralolo,' 'Mission,' and 'Picual.'
Sterile rooting media should be used in standard nursery flats. A common propagation mix is 90% perlite and 10% peat moss. Standard nursery flats can often hold up to 70 cuttings without much difficulty. Some propagationists like to place cuttings in trays that keep root systems separate, as they find that subsequent transplanting is easier and less transplant shock means these trees grow more rapidly when placed in one gallon containers.
ntermittent mist and bottom heat are critical for success in rooting olive tree cuttings. The "artificial leaf" controller for a pressurized misting system is very effective. The controller consists of a rectangular piece of fine metal mesh on a counterbalanced metallic lever that rises as it dries, activating a mercury switch that energizes an electric solenoid to turn on the misting system valve. When wetted, the screen becomes heavy, traveling down, causing the mercury switch to shut off, closing the solenoid, stopping the mist. The entire cycle usually lasts about 5 seconds, occurring as frequently as every 3 minutes under hot conditions, or as infrequently as once every few hours during cooler conditions. Many propagationists believe this to be the best system available. For small systems electric heating cables buried beneath a thin (one inch) layer of gravel controlled by an adjustable thermostat is quite effective. Bottom heat of 75. F is usually very helpful in getting the cuttings to root rapidly. The cuttings should be placed in a shaded area in a greenhouse or propagating structure, and not exposed to direct intense sunlight, as this often causes desiccation. Air temperature up to 9O° F is acceptable. Temperatures below 7O° F often result in slow or poor rooting.
If you don't have a mist system keep the bed covered with plastic film, as close to the cuttings as possible to reduce air circulation and water loss.
Under normal conditions, rooting becomes obvious after about 45 days, but may continue for up to six months or longer (since olive trees can live for hundreds of years, they are in no hurry!)
Mist propagation of cuttings is one of the best ways to propagate many olive cultivars. Being a subtropical, the roots and shoots of olive trees grow rapidly during late spring and early summer when soil moisture is relatively high, soil temperatures are warm (above 70° F), and air temperatures are not excessively hot (between 85° and 95° F.) Towards the end of this rapid growth is the prime time to take cuttings, during the months of late June and early July. Wood should be collected from vigorously growing trees, and kept cool until propagated. Pre-trim and place in plastic bags with moist sawdust, and process the material as cuttings as soon as possible. It is possible to keep the wood for several days under refrigeration without any problems. Semi-hardwood cuttings are selected from healthy branches, cutting pieces about 1/4 to 1/2 inch in diameter, and 4 to 6 inches long, with the lower leaves removed, and 2 to 4 sets of leaves remaining. Some propagationists will "wound" the lower portion of the stem, making slight cuts with a sharp object, and then use either a hormone powder or concentrated dip to help induce rooting. In my experience, quick dips of 3,000 ppm indole butyric acid (IBA) have worked well for many of the olive oil cultivars, such as 'Lucca,' 'Frantoio,' 'Moralolo,' 'Mission,' and 'Picual.'
Sterile rooting media should be used in standard nursery flats. A common propagation mix is 90% perlite and 10% peat moss. Standard nursery flats can often hold up to 70 cuttings without much difficulty. Some propagationists like to place cuttings in trays that keep root systems separate, as they find that subsequent transplanting is easier and less transplant shock means these trees grow more rapidly when placed in one gallon containers.
ntermittent mist and bottom heat are critical for success in rooting olive tree cuttings. The "artificial leaf" controller for a pressurized misting system is very effective. The controller consists of a rectangular piece of fine metal mesh on a counterbalanced metallic lever that rises as it dries, activating a mercury switch that energizes an electric solenoid to turn on the misting system valve. When wetted, the screen becomes heavy, traveling down, causing the mercury switch to shut off, closing the solenoid, stopping the mist. The entire cycle usually lasts about 5 seconds, occurring as frequently as every 3 minutes under hot conditions, or as infrequently as once every few hours during cooler conditions. Many propagationists believe this to be the best system available. For small systems electric heating cables buried beneath a thin (one inch) layer of gravel controlled by an adjustable thermostat is quite effective. Bottom heat of 75. F is usually very helpful in getting the cuttings to root rapidly. The cuttings should be placed in a shaded area in a greenhouse or propagating structure, and not exposed to direct intense sunlight, as this often causes desiccation. Air temperature up to 9O° F is acceptable. Temperatures below 7O° F often result in slow or poor rooting.
If you don't have a mist system keep the bed covered with plastic film, as close to the cuttings as possible to reduce air circulation and water loss.
Under normal conditions, rooting becomes obvious after about 45 days, but may continue for up to six months or longer (since olive trees can live for hundreds of years, they are in no hurry!)
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Thank you very much, this helped a lot. Is it too much for me to start with olive tree assuming that I'm a beginner?
Leslie, I have shared some information on bonsai cafe
Leslie, I have shared some information on bonsai cafe
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I must admit, I have never had access to good Olive tree material, and have never tried rooting them. From what I read, they are not among the easy trees to het to root.
I find growing trees from cuttings is dificult for most trees, and will not be a good way to get started, to be honest. Naturally, if you have access to loads of cuttings, and else they become compost, why not try it. Otherwise I'd say: Start of with some nursery stock that you can get for a few dollars, and safe yourself the hassle of rooting trouble (Fungi, rot, drying out, insects). THat will get you started on some nice living trees first. Then in a year or two when you have more experience in taking care of plants, start working on cuttings.
I find growing trees from cuttings is dificult for most trees, and will not be a good way to get started, to be honest. Naturally, if you have access to loads of cuttings, and else they become compost, why not try it. Otherwise I'd say: Start of with some nursery stock that you can get for a few dollars, and safe yourself the hassle of rooting trouble (Fungi, rot, drying out, insects). THat will get you started on some nice living trees first. Then in a year or two when you have more experience in taking care of plants, start working on cuttings.
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I put my cuttings into a pot and now I have to wait
In the meantime I plan to find some nice nursery stock
I'll share my (un)success with you people
In the meantime I plan to find some nice nursery stock
I'll share my (un)success with you people
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Hi Miss_M,
I just got my first cuttings...but they aren't olive! I have put them in water with some rooting hormone added. Here's hoping we both have good results! I'm looking forward to seeing what you get as nursery stock!
I just got my first cuttings...but they aren't olive! I have put them in water with some rooting hormone added. Here's hoping we both have good results! I'm looking forward to seeing what you get as nursery stock!
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Posted 13 years 3 months ago #2201
Hey everyone,
I have some good and some bad news. The bad news is that my olive cuttings died. I didn't give them enough water obviously :oops:
The good news is that I bought a little cypress (I think) tree at the nursery stock. Any suggestion for my next step? Should I let it grow a little more and then train it or I can start training it now?
Here are the pictures:
I have some good and some bad news. The bad news is that my olive cuttings died. I didn't give them enough water obviously :oops:
The good news is that I bought a little cypress (I think) tree at the nursery stock. Any suggestion for my next step? Should I let it grow a little more and then train it or I can start training it now?
Here are the pictures:
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Posted 13 years 3 months ago #2203
Hi Miss_M,
I'm sorry you lost your olive cuttings.
I quickly learned since my earlier post that cuttings must be rooted in soil and not water...they develope much stonger root systems when rooted in soil. :whistle:
Congratulations on your new purchase! Thank you for posting your photos! I'm not familiar with the Cypress however, there are others on the forum who are and may be able to help with identification. First, you must positively identify your tree before you do any work on it. Was there a tag on it with the name of the tree? You could either go back to the nursery where you bought it and ask them (providing they "know" what they are talking about ) or you could identify your plant online.
Secondly, you need to research your plant...from where it originates; what type of climate it comes from; what are it's specific needs and growing habits, etc. Here are three links that I find really helpful in identifying and/or researching plants:
And the Wikipedia site: Here you can click on the image twice to magnify it. There also other links on this page that may take you to more information.
And finally the garden web...type in the plant's common name "cypress" or the botanical name "Chamaecyparis" This site often has great reference photos of the plant to compare with yours as well as specific information.
As far as training...if you would share what part of the world you live in and what season you are now having would help us to help you. Thanks!
I hope this helps (a little) and I haven't overwhelmed you with too much info. I do tend to go on sometimes. :blush: LOL!
I'm sorry you lost your olive cuttings.
I quickly learned since my earlier post that cuttings must be rooted in soil and not water...they develope much stonger root systems when rooted in soil. :whistle:
Congratulations on your new purchase! Thank you for posting your photos! I'm not familiar with the Cypress however, there are others on the forum who are and may be able to help with identification. First, you must positively identify your tree before you do any work on it. Was there a tag on it with the name of the tree? You could either go back to the nursery where you bought it and ask them (providing they "know" what they are talking about ) or you could identify your plant online.
Secondly, you need to research your plant...from where it originates; what type of climate it comes from; what are it's specific needs and growing habits, etc. Here are three links that I find really helpful in identifying and/or researching plants:
And the Wikipedia site: Here you can click on the image twice to magnify it. There also other links on this page that may take you to more information.
And finally the garden web...type in the plant's common name "cypress" or the botanical name "Chamaecyparis" This site often has great reference photos of the plant to compare with yours as well as specific information.
As far as training...if you would share what part of the world you live in and what season you are now having would help us to help you. Thanks!
I hope this helps (a little) and I haven't overwhelmed you with too much info. I do tend to go on sometimes. :blush: LOL!
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Posted 13 years 3 months ago #2204
Dear Leslie,
thank you very much for sharing these informations. I think my tree is this one
the leafs look similar to this. I live in Montenegro (on Balkan, Ex Yugoslavia) and here is 26 degrees average temperature in this time of the year (the autmn has just started)
It is very good climate for cypresses. I can't go to the nursery stock because they don't really know much about species
thank you very much for sharing these informations. I think my tree is this one
the leafs look similar to this. I live in Montenegro (on Balkan, Ex Yugoslavia) and here is 26 degrees average temperature in this time of the year (the autmn has just started)
It is very good climate for cypresses. I can't go to the nursery stock because they don't really know much about species
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