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Hey 名媛直播 lovers,

I hope you can help me out here, main problem is that my seedlings are falling over... I think I can still save them before its too late so I will give as much info as needed.

About 3 months ago I started with my first bonsai that I bought from a Kit here in London.
I've placed the seeds in the refrigerator for 60 days (cold stratification) and potted them, I had lots of seedlings poping up very quickly.
They started to grow really good but since 3 days ago they are starting to fall over.

I know it wasnt the brightest idea to start with this in the middle of winter...
Also I don't have any option to place them outside since I don't own a garden and don't know if it would be a good idea since its pretty chill outside these days.
I'm giving them water when the soil is becoming dry but might gave them too much water perhaps?
Its pretty warm inside here too with the heating on so I've placed them in cooler spot next to a window facing east.

Whats is causing them to fall over and what can I do about it?
I read about seedling cuttings today, would this be an option or are my seedlings in a too late of a stage to do so?


Thanks for your time already!
Here are some pictures





Cheers,
Tony

Perhaps the wrong time of the year?
My greatest rate of success with seedlings is in the beginning of the spring here.

Hm.. What made you think it was a good idea to start these at the eginning of winter? Plants go dormant in winter. Seeds sprout in spring.

I am sorry to say.. Therre really is no true solution. The problem you are having it is too dark and too warm. Effectively, you have comepltely the wrong circumstances to grow pines. If you do not have a garden you can toss these out anyway; Trees belong outside, and certainly pines, junipers etc will not survive indoors.

Maybe next ime, read up a little before starting? Patience is a virtue wen growing bonsai. .

Thanks for the feedback, I heard its possible to grow them indoors but those are proboally hard core bonsai sensei masters.
I didn't think it was a good or bad Idea I just went with it while learning about them.
Going to restart with an indoor type of plant in spring.

Blizen wrote: I heard its possible to grow them indoors

It is not.

but those are proboally hard core bonsai sensei masters.

Hard core bonsai "sensei masters" grow them outdoors. Also, they do not grow them from seed.

Thanks for your sensei knowledge
How come they don't grow them from seed? to me its the most fun aspect / rewarding.
Too much time?

Takes a lot of time. Sometimes it is very difficult to germinate a seed. Mother nature do this for you and then you can find a mature tree with good potentials. You save 5-20 years depending on the material. The best trees are usually trained from yamadori trees.

Blizen wrote: Thanks for your sensei knowledge

I'm not a sensei.

How come they don't grow them from seed?

Because a real good bonsai is several decades old - and the best even centuries.

to me its the most fun aspect / rewarding

I agree growing from seed is fun, but it is not all that rewarding, the first 2 decades or so (depending on the species/climate/yada yada). Better start with more mature material - and grow seedlings on the side.

Auk wrote: I agree growing from seed is fun, but it is not all that rewarding, the first 2 decades or so (depending on the species/climate/yada yada). Better start with more mature material - and grow seedlings on the side.

I totally agree with Auk on this matter.
Mish? (growing from seeds) when done in parallel with training Yamadori or semi mature trees grown from cuttings or airlayering, is fun and can teach us a lot.
But one has to be patient...

Awesome, thanks for this info. (Auk the sensei stuff was a joke..)