Pine - Yamadori
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I saw beautiful few years old pine near the woods last week and I decided to pick it up and try doing a bonsai from it, eventually. The seasons is not that great since its mid fall, and the temperatures are a bit hotter than usual for this time of year. But it probably wouldn't wait for me to pick it up in the spring...
So I pick it up, collect it with large root ball, add a little bit of soil, and put it in the outside pot. Under the roof, half sunny and half shade, but generaly a good light condition. It was picked up from a very sunny position.
I have two major dilemmas. One is how to water the pine so that it will survive the winter? We have summers also at 40°C, and winters also -15°C or more. Is it ok to put it in the garage where during the winter there is about +10°C, but no naturall light?
Another is if it is too early to repot it to bonsai training pot, wire it and do just a little bit of pruning in the early spring (4 moths from now)? Or should I wait another year or year and half and is there anything I can do with it meanwhile.
Thanks a lot!
So I pick it up, collect it with large root ball, add a little bit of soil, and put it in the outside pot. Under the roof, half sunny and half shade, but generaly a good light condition. It was picked up from a very sunny position.
I have two major dilemmas. One is how to water the pine so that it will survive the winter? We have summers also at 40°C, and winters also -15°C or more. Is it ok to put it in the garage where during the winter there is about +10°C, but no naturall light?
Another is if it is too early to repot it to bonsai training pot, wire it and do just a little bit of pruning in the early spring (4 moths from now)? Or should I wait another year or year and half and is there anything I can do with it meanwhile.
Thanks a lot!
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It will be at least 2 years prfrably more before you can consider putting it in another pot. You must let it settle first. Next leave it out it will be far better than in a warm garage. -15C in nothing.
Water when you can but keep it quite dry rather than damp,.
If it was mine I would do nothing more than let it grow next year no pruning or any other work.
If you collect from the wild you need patience, lots of it.
Water when you can but keep it quite dry rather than damp,.
If it was mine I would do nothing more than let it grow next year no pruning or any other work.
If you collect from the wild you need patience, lots of it.
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Yes, patience is not exactly my middle name but in the bonsai world I guess we can't just get over it. It would be easier if I had more plants so there would always be something to work on and also something to show for.
Is it ok to leave the pine in a wind shielded area where there is under the roof, temperature is a little higher or is it better to leave it completely outside, as in wild? The current pot have some sort of drainage... Should I fertilize it a bit during the spring and summer?
This means poting it in spring 2019, if everything goes ok. Is then potting, wireing, pruning top and roots... all at the same time? I heard that pine are dificult to recover after too much work and that it could die.
Is it ok to leave the pine in a wind shielded area where there is under the roof, temperature is a little higher or is it better to leave it completely outside, as in wild? The current pot have some sort of drainage... Should I fertilize it a bit during the spring and summer?
This means poting it in spring 2019, if everything goes ok. Is then potting, wireing, pruning top and roots... all at the same time? I heard that pine are dificult to recover after too much work and that it could die.
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The term Yamadori has a lot to do with the character and age of the tree. To the Japanese, not every tree dug from the Mountainside is classed as Yamadori. It has to show the battle of growing many years in its form, with its old cracked bark and its trunk twisted by the elements. Such trees are not easy found and the title, Yamadori, is not given lightly. However we people from the West, as usual, go by the basic interpretation and class all trees collected from the wild as Yamadori.
is not a Yamadori.few years old pine
The term Yamadori has a lot to do with the character and age of the tree. To the Japanese, not every tree dug from the Mountainside is classed as Yamadori. It has to show the battle of growing many years in its form, with its old cracked bark and its trunk twisted by the elements. Such trees are not easy found and the title, Yamadori, is not given lightly. However we people from the West, as usual, go by the basic interpretation and class all trees collected from the wild as Yamadori.
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Thanks for the definition and great article. I honestly didn't know, despite all my google searching.
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