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Got a new tree I'd like to show. Bought it with discount at a bonsai nursery nearby.
It's a trident maple (Acer Buergerianum).

I think it is rather good material. I like the ramification. But what style? I think the trunk looks a bit bland now (imo).

I was hoping for honest replies, so thank you - I totally agree.

The ramification is very nice - maybe even a bit too much, but it won't be difficult to remove excessive amounts of twigs.
Another good point is that there is hardly a visible trunk-chops. There are two, but it was done long ago when the trunk was much thinner. The oldest trunk chop is hardly visible and has left only a small hole (as if it has been a side branch).
The youngest chop is a bit more visible, but I can remove the remaining wood and it will grow over in the future.

The trunk is not too interesting; there is no taper. Not visible on the photo is that it even has some slight reverse tapering from a certain angle.

What you did not mention: the nebari. They are absent...

I bought this at a bonsai nursery, they were having a sale. I've checked lots of trees - bonsai and starter material - but there was nothing I liked, or it was not within my budget.

I almost left without buying anything, until I saw this one. It has cost me 48 euro (there are shops asking that amount for worse looking mallsai...).

First thing I'm going to do with it is... nothing. I'll need to get it through winter, and next year see what it does.
I hope it will form buds low on the trunk (that might happen from that part where a branch was cut, halfway the trunk), so I can it grow out into a sacrifice branch to get more taper. Maybe thin it out a bit (next year). No rush, first see how it does, out in open, no longer in a nursery but in my garden...

Style? Informal broom I'd say

48 euros? That is quite a nice price but here, when i go to homebase, you can get stuff for eight pounds like satsuki azaleas. Now you mention the style you're aiming for i can definitely see it happening. I dont know much on maples, but i can say they are quite fast growers so i would think it would look a lot better in a year or so. Also i think th twigs or branches might need to be wired a bit because they are pointing up quite a lot, in my eyes, it would benefit from tilting the outer twigs a bit outwards. But i would not know how the maple would react.

Auk, I think we have similar projects on our hands. Except.. My trident has very clear reverse taper, and I am looking at advanced tree surgery in early spring to change that. Will be following this, and see where you are going. (I got the better deal though: It was a gift of someone near Baarn who thought the tree was too big).

Maybe do a bonsai afternoon together in March?

Greetings, drunk from Sao Paulo

bob wrote: 48 euros? That is quite a nice price but here, when i go to homebase, you can get stuff for eight pounds

Well... I bought a trident maple for 6 euros this summer... doesn't say much, does it ?

Also i think th twigs or branches might need to be wired a bit because they are pointing up quite a lot, in my eyes, it would benefit from tilting the outer twigs a bit outwards

Good observation. That is what I have in mind indeed - I'm planning to wire down the lowest branches almost horizontally, the branches above that I will try to lower down too, but a bit less, the branches above that the same, also a bit less etc... something like this:



(Hey, a man can have dreams, OK! )

leatherback wrote: Auk, I think we have similar projects on our hands. Except.. My trident has very clear reverse taper, and I am looking at advanced tree surgery in early spring to change that

I guess that will involve some carving ?

Will be following this, and see where you are going

Well... I've had bad luck with (bonsai) nursery trees, grown in a greenhouse. The trees I've grown myself, outside, and the ones I bought from other amateurs and bonsai growers - who also grow their trees outside - are doing fine. This one is from a reputable grower, but the soil seems very compact. First let me see it get through winter... fingers crossed! I've read different opinions on hardiness. I think it should be quite hardy, but I've seen advise that it should not get below 5 C. Doesn't make sense to me... I'm sure -5 will be OK, not sure about how low it can go. Any advise ? I do not have a cold room...

Maybe do a bonsai afternoon together in March?

I thought I made myself too impopular on this forum - maybe not. I'd very much like that

I am growing a trident out in a growing bed, and it survived the winter 2 years ago, where temps dipped to -15. But that is not bonsai-dish-ish.

The one I got, I just gove over summer. The guy warned me of a slight inverse taper. When the leaves started to drop.. Well slight was a slight undersattement .

I will not really be carving, but I am thinking about cutting the outer bark & wood, remove inner wood, and screwing the trunk back together. I tried this last year on a carpinus, and then worked quite well. I did realize 2 hands are 2 too few .

So, it's a date. Chucking wire on trees, cutting off banches and removing core wood, late winter, when spring is showing the first weakly rays.

has a good summary for trident, which seems to make sense:
Temperature: Although hardy in zones 4B through 9, the trident maple's roots have a high moisture content, and are susceptible to frost damage. This is a potentially fatal problem experienced by members of the Internet 名媛直播 Club and warned against in almost every book. Tomlinson goes so far as to suggest the substitution of Acer ginnala, the Amur maple, in colder areas. At the very least, this tree should be carefully winter protected.

Which now gets me worried as I am travelling untill new years, and mine is just sitting out with all other trees. We'll see...

Trident is one the few trees that I protect. I have lost one which was not under cover only a few metres from one under cover which was fine. I have mine under an open cover which keeps it drier.
Geoff.

What a sweet tree, love its shape already