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Hi! I'm new to the hobby and I'm looking for a Japanese black pine bonsai/prebonsai for up to 200€ in Germany or that can be shipped here. I'm interested in the species and would like some experience caring for and working with double flush pines. I would like to develop the tree to be big if possible. Till now I've found:



And;


Does any of them look like good starter material?
Do you have any other suggestions?
I don't have access to bonsai nurseries nearby or any tree nursery that sells Japanese black pines.
Thanks everyone!

There seems to be an import ban on JBP from Japan, which was just lifted. However, the rule to import JBP from Japan to EU is that they have to have spent 2 years at a designated nursery, where the growth conditions are monitored. That means, if you wait two years, you can get JBP directly from Japan. Here, JBP is maybe the most abundant species for bonsai, and prices are very reasonable.