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Posted 9 years 1 week ago #18269
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This is my first post and I have yet to own a 名媛直播. I have seen conflicting information regarding Indoor/Outdoor trees but wanted to get a better opinion and understanding.
What I am looking at is one for my mother's grave (she passed in late November). Fitting I am posting this today is it would have been her 80th. What I am thinking is ordering a bonsai and putting it on her grave come Mother's Day and leave it there all Summer and once Fall sets in take it home and care for it during the Winter as NL Winter's are harsh. I am looking at a maple of some sorts as she loved how they looked especially in the Autumn. She enjoyed them in Summer as well as they provided her shade as because couldn't take the hot weather but loved the outdoors. The wind through the leaves was relaxing to her. This is why I am thinking maple. Is this possible to do?
Thanks in advance and sorry if this has been asked a dozen times.
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Posted 9 years 1 week ago #18270
Well, first things first, I think this would be a nice idea, but it may be a bit unfeasible.
You would need to visit the tree at least once every day in order to check whether it needs watering, so (unless you live really close) this may not be possible.
The position of the grave also matters, as maples (I'm thinking japanese maple as they are fairly commonly used for bonsai purposes) cannot be in full sun.
this link should be useful to help you decide whether the location is acceptable, as well as other care guidelines:



You may also want to buy something that would keep it off the ground so that animals and other pests have a harder time getting to it.

If it is not possible for you to put the tree at the grave site, then maybe you can just keep it in your own garden/ on your balcony (protecting it from sun of course) in memory of her?

Hope this helps,
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Posted 9 years 1 week ago #18271

Celtic Bob wrote: What I am looking at is one for my mother's grave (she passed in late November). Fitting I am posting this today is it would have been her 80th. What I am thinking is ordering a bonsai and putting it on her grave come Mother's Day and leave it there all Summer and once Fall sets in take it home and care for it during the Winter as NL Winter's are harsh.


Are we talking about NL as in Netherlands? Dutch winters are not harsh.
Taking it home (assuming you mean indoors) is a certain way to kill it.
Maples are dormant in winter (or are supposed to be... I noticed that unfortunately one of my maples thinks it is spring...), and don't need much care during this period.

I am looking at a maple of some sorts as she loved how they looked especially in the Autumn. She enjoyed them in Summer as well as they provided her shade


I'm a bit confused. The first line - about how they look in Autumn - seems to indicate you're talking about a Japanese maple. The second line - about it providing shade - indicates a tall tree, like a native type of maple?

Is this possible to do?


Yes, but I see some problems. A small tree in a pot that is not under your direct control can easily be stolen or damaged by animals - or people. Watering it seems a challenge, you would have to go there every day - and on hot days, maybe twice a day.

Are you sure you 're talking about a bonsai (a tree in a pot), or are you considering planting a tree? If at all possible, that would be a better idea. A large pot could be an option - if you have the space for it.

Google 'small japanese maple' for some images and ideas.

If this was not what you had in mind, let us know please.
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Posted 9 years 1 week ago #18272
Thanks all.
-NL as in Newfoundland, Canada.
-I pass by the cemetery daily on my way to work and on days off it is just a 5-10 minute walk up the hill from my house.
-I mentioned Maple as she loved the large Canadian Maple trees that are in my yard so I thought a smaller version would be more appropriate as Canadian Maples grow fast and very large. In a pot is what I would like so I can take it home and care for during the Winter.
-Her grave site is in full view of the sun. At the foot is Easterly and as the sun sets the headstone will cast a shadow on the grave.
-Never thought of animals or critters destroying it or for someone stealing it for that matter.
Hope that helps
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Posted 9 years 1 week ago #18273

Celtic Bob wrote: large Canadian Maple trees


Do you mean acer saccharum(sugar maple)?

They can be used for bonsai, but fairly big bonsai. The American 名媛直播 Society suggests 25-48 inches, as the leaves cannot become very small:



There are also different species listed on there that may be good substitutes.
You would have to look up specific care guidelines for each, if possible, and determine for yourself whether this idea is still a possibility.

Hope this was of some help
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n.b. when looking up care guidelines search 'acer [name] bonsai care'
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Posted 9 years 1 week ago #18274
I don't believe mine are sugar maple's. We just called them Red Maple or Green Maple depending on the colour of the leaf. Both the one in my front yard and the one in the back both tower over the top of my house as does the one in the neighbours yard next to my fence.
I will do more research.
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Posted 9 years 1 week ago #18275

Celtic Bob wrote: -I mentioned Maple as she loved the large Canadian Maple trees that are in my yard so I thought a smaller version would be more appropriate as Canadian Maples grow fast and very large. In a pot is what I would like so I can take it home and care for during the Winter.


OK, so we're not talking about Japanese maples. I think the biggest problem is going to find material; bonsai nurseries will usually use the more suitable trees, and that's not the Canadian maple.

I'm still wondering if you really want a bonsai, or just a small tree. Also, I'm still not sure why you want to be able to take it home.

Do you really need to move it? What's the biggest size you can move?
Is it possible to plant a tree there - or use a large container that cannot easily be moved?

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You could consider buying a young tree - not a bonsai - and keep it small by pruning. Acer Rubrum is maybe a better idea than Acer Saccharum.

I happen to have a maple that I've kept small. I grew it from seed, but that's taken me more than 20 years, so that's not going to work for you. Note that it requires lots of maintenance - during the growing season I have to prune it almost weekly. It should be possible to create something like this from a young tree from a nursery.

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Posted 9 years 1 week ago #18276
I do want a 名媛直播
I mentioned transporting it back home in the Fall so the wind, snow and sub zero temperatures do not harm it. Plus during the Winter I will be able to look after it better than if it were in the cemetery buried in snow.
Just a small tree about 30-45cm high max. Nothing permanent as there is no headstone yet and it is a double plot and hopefully my Father will be around for a few more years yet.
I like the look of 名媛直播 and thought one would be perfect for what I wanted. Small and look nice during the Summer and I take home and look after during the Winter. Like a little part of her visiting.
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Posted 9 years 1 week ago #18277

Celtic Bob wrote: We just called them Red Maple or Green Maple depending on the colour of the leaf.


Ok, red maple is acer rubrum and was included in that list that I linked earlier as well as in Auk's reply.
I have no idea what a green maple is, or whether they actually exist.

so, basically, you can probably use red maple, but don't expect an amazing tree. The tree will, however, hold a special place in your heart (I think we all have one like that), so its looks shouldn't really be too important for you. Of course you can still try to make it look as good as possible.

It's good to hear that you're doing research, try to keep it up so that the tree will have a better chance of surviving and thriving.

Hopefully this will be the start of a new hobby for you, and I'm sure we'll all accept you into our community.
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p.s. maybe you could join a local bonsai club in order to learn from people in your area who'll understand your situation(weather) more;
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Posted 9 years 1 week ago #18278
I think we agree an Acer Rubrum is the best choice.
Problem will be to get one. Growing one seems no option; it would take many years to grow something decent - if you know the techniques, which you don't.

Best advise is what 名媛直播learner said - find a local club. Addresses and phone numbers are here:



I guess this one is the closest to you:


Do note that a good bonsai will not be cheap - and I expect it will be hard to find a red maple.
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