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Posted 3 years 8 months ago #68635
A few months ago, I ordered a couple Chinese elm cuttings. I chopped em way down, pruned the roots mercilessly, and stuck me in some pots. Waited for a couple months, and just when I was beginning to think I had been too rough on them, they started sprouting leaves amazingly! Very resilient!

A few months later though, the leaves started turning pale and crispy. Now if I touch a leave it falls off, and I can crinkle them to a fine dust. (Still a pale green color though...) any ideas what caused this? And if they might still be alive? I never changed my regular generous watering. And had them in a spot that got a little direct morning sun, and some filtered light throughout the day. (Outside)

It also may be worth mentioning that I live in southern Arizona. The temperature just changed here. So at night it’s still around 65 degrees, but around 100 degrees every day now. I wonder if it’s just too hot? I read that Chinese Elm probably need a more stable temperature. I feel like they are dead. So I just planted some Pomegranate seeds in hopes that they will like the wacky climate over here...
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Posted 3 years 8 months ago #68636
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Posted 3 years 8 months ago #68653
This is all unsuccessful cuttings. I would think that they have grown no or very few roots.
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Posted 3 years 7 months ago #68667
Oh, ok. In some ways that’s reassuring... Thank you so much my friend! :)
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Posted 3 years 7 months ago #68731
The substrate you use is very coarse, which hampers the water retention. I would say that causes the demise of your cutting. Considering the amount of growth you got on that one, I would say it had started to root, but dried out. DId you take it out of the pot to check on rooting once it was clear it died?
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Posted 3 years 7 months ago #68778
That makes a lot of sense! Especially since the same thing happened to my apple seeds, and juniper sapling. And they all seemed fine until the weather got warmer, ( which I’m sure made it even harder for the coarse soil to retain moisture) I haven’t taken it out of the pot yet, but now I will definitely check... Thank you!
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Posted 3 years 7 months ago #68783
Unfortunately, it has been dead for quite some time. It looks like it dried out at some point. Do you have a bonsai potting mix that you could use? Being in Arizona, it is likely thar you will have to water the plant several times a day, especially with it being outside, and misting it wouldn't hurt either. You have the opposite problem to me: it's cold and cloudly up here!
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Posted 3 years 7 months ago #68785
Sorry to hear of your cold and cloudy troubles... Some middle ground would be nice! Lol This is the mix I used... looks like maybe it is a better mix for more mature trees, and in a more humid climates... ( I put a few pomegranate seeds in this container the other day) Maybe I should find something that is a bit finer, to retain a bit more moisture?
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And here’s what the Chinese elm cutting’s roots looked like...
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Posted 3 years 7 months ago #68786
Congratulations. As suspected, you succesfully rooted your elm cutting. Well done.

The mix you have, confirmed now that i see your hand next it, is very coarse. The grains I use for cuttings are about 1-3mm. Enough airspaces yet it does not easily dry out completely. The mix you have there is similar to what I use for my big collected plants, think, 50cm diameter pots.
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